Talk:DebForMeeGo - Revision history

78.70.20.188: /* All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish */

2010-02-19T15:34:42Z

All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish

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	The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being asked to "switch" to deb. --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 17:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)		The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being asked to "switch" to deb. --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 17:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

-	== ~~All~~ the ~~"pro Deb"~~ arguments ~~are subjective and childish~~ ==	+	== Discussion of the individual arguments ==

	# Maemo has the bigger community		# Maemo has the bigger community
	:Versus? Moblin? Don't tell that to Intel.		:Versus? Moblin? Don't tell that to Intel.
		+	::take a look at the numbers, rhetoric dont make a difference
	# community infrastructure is based on deb - would be thrown away		# community infrastructure is based on deb - would be thrown away
	:The Moblin infrastructure is being used as it offers more features. If you want a feature list, go to the meego-dev list.		:The Moblin infrastructure is being used as it offers more features. If you want a feature list, go to the meego-dev list.
		+	::more features is not an argument. obviously the current feature set works, and it works quite well. which feature exactly would justify the work related to the change?
	# deb has wider adoption (Ubuntu, Google Chrome OS, Debian)		# deb has wider adoption (Ubuntu, Google Chrome OS, Debian)
	:So... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora is not a "wide adoption" as well? Subjective bullet point that should be removed.		:So... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora is not a "wide adoption" as well? Subjective bullet point that should be removed.
		+	::this is not about the number of distributions but about the number of '''desktop''' users ;)
	# allows syncing from Debian/ Ubuntu		# allows syncing from Debian/ Ubuntu
	:Debian isn't the end-all be-all for Linux. There are dozens of distributions that provide valuable patches and experience.		:Debian isn't the end-all be-all for Linux. There are dozens of distributions that provide valuable patches and experience.
		+	::but Ubuntu is desktop user oriented, so their patches are more valuable. For instance their boot speed optimizations make my desktop boot faster than the N900...
	# is used for distributions targetting end users		# is used for distributions targetting end users
	:And... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!		:And... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!
		+	::they primary target corporate users, the driving force behind user visible changes is Ubuntu. (Notifications, Indicator Applet)
	# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging		# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging
	:Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!		:Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!
-	--[[User:mooninite\|mooninite]] 18:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)	+	::I would not say that modifying each package and taking care of the interdepencies can be done ''easily''
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		+	questioning --[[User:mooninite\|mooninite]] 18:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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		+	reply -- madman2k

mooninite: /* All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish */

2010-02-16T18:20:11Z

All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish

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	:And... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!		:And... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!
	# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging		# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging
-	Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!	+	:Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!
		+	--[[User:mooninite\|mooninite]] 18:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

mooninite: /* All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish */ (Mandrake! What's that? :P )

2010-02-16T18:05:25Z

All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish: (Mandrake! What's that? :P )

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	:The Moblin infrastructure is being used as it offers more features. If you want a feature list, go to the meego-dev list.		:The Moblin infrastructure is being used as it offers more features. If you want a feature list, go to the meego-dev list.
	# deb has wider adoption (Ubuntu, Google Chrome OS, Debian)		# deb has wider adoption (Ubuntu, Google Chrome OS, Debian)
-	:So... ~~Mandrake~~, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora is not a "wide adoption" as well? Subjective bullet point that should be removed.	+	:So... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora is not a "wide adoption" as well? Subjective bullet point that should be removed.
	# allows syncing from Debian/ Ubuntu		# allows syncing from Debian/ Ubuntu
	:Debian isn't the end-all be-all for Linux. There are dozens of distributions that provide valuable patches and experience.		:Debian isn't the end-all be-all for Linux. There are dozens of distributions that provide valuable patches and experience.
	# is used for distributions targetting end users		# is used for distributions targetting end users
-	:And... ~~Mandrake~~, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!	+	:And... Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!
	# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging		# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging
	Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!		Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!

mooninite: /* All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish */ new section

2010-02-16T18:03:33Z

All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish: new section

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	The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being asked to "switch" to deb. --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 17:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)		The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being asked to "switch" to deb. --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 17:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== All the "pro Deb" arguments are subjective and childish ==
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		+	# Maemo has the bigger community
		+	:Versus? Moblin? Don't tell that to Intel.
		+	# community infrastructure is based on deb - would be thrown away
		+	:The Moblin infrastructure is being used as it offers more features. If you want a feature list, go to the meego-dev list.
		+	# deb has wider adoption (Ubuntu, Google Chrome OS, Debian)
		+	:So... Mandrake, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora is not a "wide adoption" as well? Subjective bullet point that should be removed.
		+	# allows syncing from Debian/ Ubuntu
		+	:Debian isn't the end-all be-all for Linux. There are dozens of distributions that provide valuable patches and experience.
		+	# is used for distributions targetting end users
		+	:And... Mandrake, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, not to mention SuSE EL, Red Hat EL and Fedora don't target end users? Nuts!
		+	# not to throw away experience gained with maemo which is reflected in the packaging
		+	Those scripts and patches can be easily streamlined into an RPM spec. This is an opinion statement, not a factual counter point!

jaffa: New page: The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being a...

2010-02-16T17:49:56Z

New page: The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being a...

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The discussion is approaching this from the wrong point with "keep" and "switch". Moblin seems to be providing the base OS, and Maemo the base UI. Therefore it's ''Moblin'' that is being asked to "switch" to deb. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 17:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)